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Jacob’s Rocky Pillow (Eighth Sunday after Pentecost)

Almeda Wright and Kate Ott discuss the messages of dreams and mundane reality in Genesis 28:10-19a. The text is appointed for the Eighth Sunday after Pentecost (Proper 11) in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

Transcript

Voiceover Voice:
This idea that the rock, that ecology, that the earth speaks to us, that it, too, has a dream—that we call this “Jacob’s dream”…

Natalie Owens Pike:
This is Chapter, Verse, and Season: a lectionary podcast from Yale Bible Study. Join us each week as Yale Divinity School professors look at an upcoming text from the Revised Common Lectionary.

I’m your host, Natalie Owens Pike, Yale Divinity School class of 2023. And in this episode, we have Kate Ott, Lecturer in Practical Theology at Yale Divinity School, and Almeda Wright, Associate Professor of Religious Education at Yale Divinity School. They’re discussing Genesis 28:10-19a, which is appointed for the Eighth Sunday after Pentecost in Year A. Let’s listen in!

[Genesis 28:10-19a]
Jacob left Beer-sheba and went toward Haran. He came to a certain place and stayed there for the night, because the sun had set. Taking one of the stones of the place, he put it under his head and lay down in that place. And he dreamed that there was a stairway set up on the earth, the top of it reaching to heaven, and the angels of God were ascending and descending on it. And the Lord stood beside him and said, “I am the Lord, the God of Abraham your father and the God of Isaac; the land on which you lie I will give to you and to your offspring, and your offspring shall be like the dust of the earth, and you shall spread abroad to the west and to the east and to the north and to the south, and all the families of the earth shall be blessed in you and in your offspring. Know that I am with you and will keep you wherever you go and will bring you back to this land, for I will not leave you until I have done what I have promised you.” Then Jacob woke from his sleep and said, “Surely the Lord is in this place—and I did not know it!” And he was afraid and said, “How awesome is this place! This is none other than the house of God, and this is the gate of heaven.”

So Jacob rose early in the morning, and he took the stone that he had put under his head and set it up for a pillar and poured oil on the top of it. He called that place Bethel, but the name of the city was Luz at the first.

Almeda Wright:
So, this passage in Genesis 28 is really fascinating for me, because it’s, you know, we think about it like, “Oh, this is Jacob’s dream at Bethel!” But as I looked at it, and did a closer read of it, I began immediately to hone in on the fact that Jacob is taking a rock, making it into a pillow, and lying down. Now, of course, my gut reaction is, “That rock is not gonna make a very comfortable pillow; what is this foolishness?” But once I got beyond that, the fact that it wasn’t like this nice, plush pillow that he was lying on, I started thinking through what does it mean for us to attend to or value this story of Jacob dreaming, and Jacob actually just taking some time? Because the story starts in a very regular way, where he pauses, because it’s dark, on his journey, and because he’s tired and he needs to rest. So, he doesn’t pause because he thinks this is a holy place. That doesn’t happen until way later. He pauses just because of a regular human physical need. And so, for me, when I think through that, it’s like, this is amazing. There’s something about attending to the mundane that potentially opens us up to hear or to see, or to attend or be grounded and connected, or connected to a rock, in a particular way that opens us up to experience something of the divine, or to experience something holy. And of course, all of that immediately emerges for me because this week has been one of hurriedness and craziness, and so thinking through practices of rest, and pause, and just dealing with the regular human needs, also giving me an opportunity to be open to the divine.

Kate Ott:
When I first saw the verses for this passage, immediately I thought, “Jacob’s ladder.” I did not focus on the rock. And it’s a sermon by a colleague I have, Kenneth Ngwa, Cameroonian-American Hebrew scholar, that forever changed my reading of this text. And similar to you, it is about that rock. And yes! The naturalness of it, the mundanity of it–I don’t even know if that’s a word! [Prof. Wright laughs] The idea–his sermon was called, “Rocky Earthy Dream”–this idea that the rock, that ecology, that the earth speaks to us, that it too has a dream, that we call this Jacob’s dream, and yet it comes from the rock first. Obviously, it comes from God, but in that moment where Jacob connects (and I’m really grateful for your reading of the sense that this is just a mundane action. We all gotta sleep when we’re journeying!) And in that moment, he’s open to what the earth has to say. So, Dr. Ngwa says it also is out of space and time in that moment. Right? That’s what dreams do for us. There’s a way in which they create a space where we can both be history and future.

Almeda Wright:
Mm-hmm.

Kate Ott:
Time and no time, across space. And so, there’s a way in which I, you know, always thinking about ethics and technology, also love the use of rock, both as earth, as nature, as communicating something to us, that we need to pause and listen to, that transforms Jacob in that moment, that transforms the space into sacred space… but also, that it’s a technology, it’s a form of communication. And when we think about the kinds of rocks in minerals that, say, make up our mobile phones, where do they come from?

Almeda Wright:
Right.

Kate Ott
What communication are they allowing to happen? So, it raises some of those questions for me and makes me wonder, how then do we think about our dreams as communication? How do we think about the kind of moral imagination that comes from actually identifying the connection we have with Earth, with technology?

Almeda Wright:
Mm. I love Kenneth’s sermon. And I love the idea of focusing on the rock, but also the rock is technology, and even portal, if you will, to these dreams. Because I come from a community of people where–I grew up in rural Virginia, small African American community there–of people who get their hands dirty in the rocky ground, but also who in, probably, the mundaneness of their daily lives, see dreams or hear, see visions and have dreams, as ways of opening them to and hearing from God. Now, of course, couple generations removed from that, you know, lovely community, I’m still a little creeped out by the idea of dreams as communication or portals to the divine. And even probably as a kid reading this particular text, I was like, “Yeah, so what do I feel about Jacob’s Ladder? And they got people going up to heaven and coming back down and, and I’m not sure I want that. Like, again, I’m not sure of this vision, or what this is teaching us about!” But now, you know, moving out of the creepy like, “Ooh, that’s spooky!” moment as a child, of thinking about what this dream might have been, to reflect on the reality that there’s a long and rich legacy of communities of people for whom dreams are powerful, and dreams are the ways that they understand God to give them instruction, or warnings, or promises. Because this is supposed to be a dream of God providing, of God making sure that Jacob is taken care of, Jacob and his entire family and descendants, they’re all going to be protected and provided for. That’s what he gets and sees in this dream.

Kate Ott:
I wonder also how Jacob in that moment, the sort of transition you named earlier of, “I’m tired, I need to rest, this is ordinary” to “This is sacred place,” I am now seeing this connection to history and future. And I wonder, especially for Jacob, who I don’t think necessarily chooses immediately, “Yeah, I’m gonna swap out this whole birthright thing,” and you know, was probably wondering a little bit, “Did God really choose me?” Is this really what’s supposed to be right? Given my community context, this I hear as a moment for Jacob to be able to take a breath and say, “Okay, I have this relationship with God. God has spoken with me. I have, I don’t wanna say a surety, but maybe at least some concreteness to this sense of what will come next,” and that sense of what will come next, I love, comes from a grounding in ancestors, in this sensibility of community that will always be there for you. So, in that–I mean, I grew up Catholic and I love ghosts. I love saints (kind of, I think probably confused them as a young child!) [Both laugh.]

Almeda Wright:
I love it.

Kate Ott:
But for me that was also always the place where moral imagination happened, where I thought, “Wow, there’s like these superheroes in my religious tradition that did amazing things!” And so, as I came into seminary and I was introduced to African American traditions and to folks who had an understanding of ancestors in faith, I was able to see the connections there. Obviously, it is not the same in any way, but it helped me understand how important that is to one’s moral imagination, and to this eschatological future that that I hear is being projected in this text, and that I think Jacob has to grab onto and grab onto in this earthy way, right? “Your descendants shall be like the dust of the earth.” So, it sort of brings us back to that rock, that earth. That connection is not just spiritual, it’s not just technological, but it’s earthy.

Almeda Wright:
Mm-hmm. And there is nothing that is making those things have to be bifurcated or separated, because oftentimes we’re like, “Well, if we’re grounded, then we can’t be spiritual,” or “If we are using our hands or thinking about something in an ecological way, it’s materiality, so we’re, again, not spiritual, not in this dream world.” And it’s so fascinating, both for my own traditional community, but I think even the call here in this text is like, these things are always being interwoven, and so what newness, what richness, emerges? I love the language that you’re using, of moral imagination, but even more so, what kind of technical or earthy imagination emerges when we’re holding these things together?

Natalie Owens Pike:
Thank you for listening. And thank you to our professors for your insights on this scripture.

The transcript of this audio and lots more Bible study resources are available at yalebiblestudy.org.

Chapter, Verse, and Season is a production of the Center for Continuing Education at Yale Divinity School and is produced by: Creator and Managing Editor, Joel Baden; Production Manager, Kelly Morrissey; Associate Producer, Aidan Stoddart; Executive Producer, Helena Martin; and me, your host, Natalie Owens Pike. Mixing on today’s episode, and our theme music, are by Calvin Linderman.

We’ll be back with another conversation from Chapter, Verse, and Season.

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Volker Leppin and Vasileios Marinis discuss Moses, theophany, and the dangers of Christocentrism in Exodus 33:12-23. The text is appointed for the Twenty-First Sunday after Pentecost (Proper 24) in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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An Uncertain Kingdom (Twentieth Sunday after Pentecost)

Kate Ott and Almeda Wright discuss the challenge of problematic parables in Matthew 22:1-14. The text is appointed for the Twentieth Sunday after Pentecost (Proper 23) in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Striving, Hoping, Practicing (Nineteenth Sunday after Pentecost)

Bill Goettler and Joanne Jennings discuss Paul’s Jewishness, the work of faith, and Divine aid in Philippians 3:4b-14. The text is appointed for the Nineteenth Sunday after Pentecost (Proper 22) in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Water from a Rock (Eighteenth Sunday after Pentecost)

Joel Baden and Sarah Drummond discuss leadership, faithlessness, and providence in Exodus 17:1-7. The text is appointed for the Eighteenth Sunday after Pentecost (Proper 21) in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Great and Mighty and Awesome and Everything (Seventeenth Sunday after Pentecost)

Jennifer Herdt and Jere Wells discuss praise, divine mystery, and liberation in Psalm 145:1-8. The text is appointed for the Seventeenth Sunday after Pentecost (Proper 20) in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Mercy and Debt (Sixteenth Sunday after Pentecost)

Bill Goettler and Joanne Jennings discuss the challenge of forgiveness and the role of grace in Matthew 18:21-35. The text is appointed for the Sixteenth Sunday after Pentecost (Proper 19) in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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The Role of the Prophet (Fifteenth Sunday after Pentecost)

Bill Goettler and Joel Baden discuss prophecy, change, and divine threats in Ezekiel 33:7-11. The text is appointed for the Fifteenth Sunday after Pentecost (Proper 18) in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Heaping Burning Coals (Fourteenth Sunday after Pentecost)

Jennifer Herdt and Jere Wells discuss Paul, evangelism, and the transformation of evil in Romans 12:9-21. The text is appointed for the Fourteenth Sunday after Pentecost (Proper 17) in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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People Before Us and After Us (Thirteenth Sunday after Pentecost)

Bill Goettler and Joanne Jennings discuss history, intergenerational community, and the heroic acts of Biblical women in Exodus 1:8-2:10. The text is appointed for the Thirteenth Sunday after Pentecost (Proper 16) in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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When People Dwell Together (Twelfth Sunday after Pentecost)

Joel Baden and Sarah Drummond discuss unity, transformation… and beards… in Psalm 133. The text is appointed for the Twelfth Sunday after Pentecost (Proper 15) in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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The Still, Small Voice (Eleventh Sunday after Pentecost)

Joel Baden and Bill Goettler discuss generational transition, faithlessness, and the voice of God in 1 Kings 19:9-18. The text is appointed for the Eleventh Sunday after Pentecost (Proper 14) in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Hunger and Abundance (Tenth Sunday after Pentecost)

Jennifer Herdt and Jere Wells discuss justice, abundance, and the spiritual power of leftovers in Matthew 14:13-21. The text is appointed for the Tenth Sunday after Pentecost (Proper 13) in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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The Hidden Face of the Lord (Ninth Sunday after Pentecost)

Justin Crisp and Abdul-Rehman Malik discuss praise, transaction, and God’s action in history in Psalm 105:1-11. The text is appointed for the Ninth Sunday after Pentecost (Proper 12), in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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The Flower in the Desert (Seventh Sunday after Pentecost)

Bill Goettler and Joanne Jennings discuss applying the parable of the sower (Matthew 13:1-9, 18-23) to our own dynamic lives of faith. The text is appointed for the Seventh Sunday after Pentecost (Proper 10), in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Our Praise, Creation’s Praise (Sixth Sunday after Pentecost)

Volker Leppin and Vasileios Marinis discuss environmental justice, co-creation, and the kingdom of God in Psalm 145:8-14. The text is appointed for the Sixth Sunday after Pentecost (Proper 9) in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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To Be Thy Hand Extended (Fifth Sunday after Pentecost)

Bill Goettler and Joanne Jennings discuss hard truths and be in-dwelled by Christ in Romans 6:12–23. The text is appointed for the Fifth Sunday after Pentecost (Proper 8), in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Forging a New Community (Fourth Sunday after Pentecost)

Felicity Harley-McGowan and Bruce Gordon discuss Jesus’ scarier proclamations in Matthew 10:24-39. The text is appointed for the Fourth Sunday after Pentecost (Proper 7), in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Sarah’s Annunciation (Third Sunday after Pentecost)

Joel Baden and Sarah Drummond discuss hospitality, laughter, and the complexity of Sarah as a character in Genesis 18:1-15. The text is appointed for the Third Sunday after Pentecost (Proper 6), in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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The Faith of Rabbis and Philosophers (2nd Sunday after Pentecost)

Harold Attridge and John Hare discuss faith, doubt, shame, and mystic union in Romans 4:13-25. The text is appointed for the second Sunday after Pentecost (Proper 5), in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Chaos and Creation (Trinity Sunday)

Justin Crisp and Abdul-Rehman Malik discuss rest, reveling, and revelation in Genesis 1:1–2:4a The text is appointed for Trinity Sunday, in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Harmony in the Spirit (Pentecost)

Awet Andemicael and Adam Eitel discuss diversity, reversal, and the power of the Spirit in Acts 2:1-21 and John 20:19-23. The text is appointed for the Day of Pentecost in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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A Path for the Vulnerable (Seventh Sunday of Easter)

Joel Baden and Tisa Wenger discuss righteousness, liberation, and vulnerability in Psalm 68:1-10, 32-35. The text is appointed for the Seventh Sunday of Easter, in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Systems and Suffering (Sixth Suday of Easter)

Almeda Wright and Kate Ott discuss suffering, meaning, and unjust power structures in 1 Peter 3:13-22. The text is appointed for the Sixth Sunday of Easter, in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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A Source of Deep Encounter (Fifth Sunday of Easter)

Mark Heim and Abdul-Rehman Malik discuss prophecy, interfaith reading, and incarnation in John 14:1-14. The text is appointed for the Fifth Sunday of Easter, in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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To Dwell in the House of the Lord (Fourth Sunday of Easter)

Jacqueline Vayntrub and Christian Wiman discuss paradox, poetry, and life beyond death in Psalm 23. The text is appointed for the Fourth Sunday of Easter, in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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God Continues to Startle Us (Third Sunday of Easter)

Joanne Jennings and Bill Goettler discuss divine encounter and human conversation in Luke 24:13-35. The text is appointed for the Third Sunday of Easter, in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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The Path Laid Out for Us (Second Sunday of Easter)

Mark Heim and Abdul-Rehman Malik discuss interfaith perspectives on the story of Easter in conversation with John 20:19-31. The text is appointed for the Second Sunday of Easter, in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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A Different Kind of Peace (Easter Sunday)

Felicity Harley-McGowan and Bruce Gordon discuss power, peace and healing in Acts 10:34-43. The text is appointed for Easter Day, in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Company in Suffering (Holy Saturday)

John Collins and Jennifer Herdt discuss the problem of suffering, the impact of loss, and the resilience of human nature in Job 14:1-14 and 1 Peter 4:1-8. The text is appointed for Holy Saturday, in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Crucified Until the End of the World (Good Friday)

Justin Crisp and Abdul-Rehman Malik discuss Christology, glory, and exclusion in John 18:1–19:42. The text is appointed for Good Friday in the Revised Common Lectionary.

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A Retrojected Festival (Maundy Thursday)

Joel Baden and Sarah Drummond discuss sacrificial practice, identity markers, and imagined history in Exodus 12:1-14. The text is appointed for Maundy Thursday in the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Even Death on a Cross (Liturgy of the Passion)

Volker Leppin and Vasileios Marinis discuss crucifixion, suffering, obedience, and solidarity in Philippians 2:5-11. The text is appointed for the Liturgy of the Passion (Palm Sunday), in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Unexpected and Remarkable Ways (Fifth Sunday in Lent)

Yejide Peters Pietersen and Bill Goettler discuss miracles, healing, and grief in John 11:1-45. The text is appointed for the Fifth Sunday in Lent, in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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The Dream of Joseph (Fourth Sunday in Lent)

Felicity Harley-McGowan and Bruce Gordon discuss the role of Joseph, the divine potential of dreams, and membership in the Holy Family in Matthew 1:18-25. The text is appointed for the Fourth Sunday in Lent, in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Signs of God’s Faithfulness (Third Sunday in Lent)

Joel Baden and Tisa Wenger discuss life in the wilderness for the Israelites, being tested and testing God in Exodus 17:1-7. The text is appointed for the Third Sunday in Lent, in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Those Traveling through our Midst (Second Sunday in Lent)

Mark Heim and Abdul-Rehman Malik discuss blessing, migration, and the inspiring legacy of Abraham across religious traditions in Genesis 12:1-4a. The text is appointed for the Second Sunday in Lent, in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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The Woman and the Serpent (First Sunday in Lent)

Peter Hawkins and Eric Reymond discuss seduction, curiosity, craftiness, and misogyny in Genesis 2:15-17; 3:1-7. The text is appointed for the First Sunday in Lent, in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Claiming that Story (Transfiguration Sunday)

Joel Baden and Tisa Wenger discuss leadership, inherited stories, and transfiguring moments in Exodus 24:12-18 and Matthew 17:1-9. The texts are appointed for Transfiguration Sunday, in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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You are God’s Field (Sixth Sunday after Epiphany)

Almeda Wright and Kate Ott discuss pedagogy, mixed metaphors, ageism, and spiritual growth in 1 Corinthians 3:1-9. The text is appointed for the Sixth Sunday after the Epiphany, in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Hypocrites (Fifth Sunday after Epiphany)

Volker Leppin and Vasileios Marinis discuss hypocrisy, reward systems, righteousness, and religious performance in Isaiah 58:1-9a (9b-12). The text is appointed for the Fifth Sunday after the Epiphany, in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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God Loves the Poor First (Fourth Sunday after Epiphany)

Justin Crisp and Abdul-Rehman Malik discuss blessedness, poverty, consolation, and the dangers of transactional theology in Matthew 5:1-12. The text is appointed for the Fourth Sunday after the Epiphany in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Simply a Part of our Being (Third Sunday after Epiphany)

Joanne Jennings and Bill Goettler discuss living with both faith and fear in Psalm 27:1, 4-9. The text is appointed for the Third Sunday after the Epiphany, in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Behold the Lamb of God (Second Sunday after the Epiphany)

Felicity Harley-McGowan and Bruce Gordon discuss the story of John the Baptist, a wild and perhaps uncertain character, in John 1:29-42. The text is appointed for the Second Sunday after the Epiphany, in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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A Light to the Nations (First Sunday after the Epiphany)

Joel Baden and Abdul-Rehman Malik discuss Messianism, prophetic gentleness, and hermeneutical approaches in Isaiah 42:1-9. The text is appointed for the First Sunday after the Epiphany, in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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A Little Lower Than God (First Sunday after Christmas)

Vasileios Marinis and Volker Leppin discuss human nature, sovereignty over creation, and preacherly responsibility with reference to Psalm 8. The text is appointed for the First Sunday after Christmas, in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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How the Holy is Present (Christmas)

Yejide Peters Pietersen and Bill Goettler discuss the spirit of children, the multiplicity of interpretation, and pastoral responsibility at Christmas, with reference to Luke 2:1-14 (15-20). The text is appointed for Christmas Eve in the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Mary, Joseph, and the Infant Messiah (Fourth Sunday of Advent)

Mark Heim and Abdul-Rehman Malik discuss Christian and Muslim interpretations of the Nativty of Jesus, with special reference to Matthew 1:18-25. The text is appointed for the Fourth Sunday of Advent, in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Patience and Prophecy (Third Sunday of Advent)

Judith Gundry and Adam Eitel discuss patience, endurance of suffering, and the challenges of family conflict in James 5:7-10. The text is appointed for the Third Sunday of Advent, in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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To Look Towards, If Not To Look At (Second Sunday of Advent)

Peter Hawkins and Eric Reymond discuss the imagined future of the glorious kingdom in Isaiah 11:1-10 and Romans 15:4-13. The text is appointed for the Second Sunday of Advent, in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Best Cliffhanger of All Time (First Sunday of Advent)

AndrewMcGowan and Ned Parker discuss the holiness of divine absence and the anticipation of things to come in Matthew 24:36-44. The text is appointed for the First Sunday of Advent in Year A of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Where You Start the Story (Thanksgiving U.S.A.)

Joel Baden and Tisa Wenger discuss colonial narratives, indigenous theology, and the downsides of going to a “Promised Land” in Deuteronomy 26:1-11. The text is appointed for Thanksgiving Day (USA), in Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Shepherds and Kings (Feast of Christ the King)

Peter Hawkins and Eric Reymond discuss Hebrew vocabulary, shepherd imagery, and the legacy of King David in Jeremiah 23:1-6. The text is appointed for the Feast of Christ the King (Proper 29), in Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Not Heaven-on-Earth, but a New Earth (Twenty-Third Sunday after Pentecost)

Joel Baden and Abdul-Rehman Malik discuss eschatology, aspiration, and ancient Near Eastern curse formulations in Isaiah 65:17-25. The text is appointed for the Twenty-Third Sunday after Pentecost (Proper 28), in Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Reversal in the Kingdom (Feast of All Saints)

John Collins and Jennifer Herdt discuss poverty, apocalyptic imagery, and economic justice in reference to Daniel 7:1-3, 15-18 and Luke 6:20-31. The text is appointed for All Saints’ Day, in Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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How God Comes Looking for Humans (Twenty-First Sunday after Pentecost)

Harold Attridge and Greg Sterling discuss redemption, the proper use of wealth, and the strange company Jesus keeps in Luke 19:1-10. The text is appointed for the Twenty-First Sunday after Pentecost, Proper 26, in Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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They Shall Never Again Be Put to Shame (Twentieth Sunday after Pentecost)

Awet Andemicael and Adam Eitel discuss shame, redemption, and rehabilitation in Joel 2:23-32. The text is appointed for the Twentieth Sunday after Pentecost, Proper 25, in Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Less a Promise Than a Threat (Nineteenth Sunday after Pentecost)

Joel Baden and Abdul-Rehman Malik discuss punishment, free will, and the dangers of metaphor in Jeremiah 31:27-34. The text is appointed for the Nineteenth Sunday after Pentecost, Proper 24, in Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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The Guts of a Chicken (Eighteenth Sunday after Pentecost)

Jacqueline Vayntrub and Christian Wiman discuss joy, salvation history, and chicken guts in Psalm 66:1-12. The text is appointed for the Eighteenth Sunday after Pentecost, Proper 23, in Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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An Act of Waiting (Seventeenth Sunday after Pentecost)

Peter Hawkins and Eric Reymond discuss trauma, hope, and poetic Hebrew in Lamentations 1:1-6 and 3:19-26. The text is appointed for the Seventeenth Sunday after Pentecost (Proper 22), in Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Grace and Transaction (Sixteenth Sunday after Pentecost)

Joel Baden and Abdul-Rehman Malik discuss faith, ritual performance, and divine blessing in Psalm 91:1-6, 14-16. The text is appointed for the Sixteenth Sunday after Pentecost (Proper 21), in Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Calling the Market to Account (Fifteenth Sunday after Pentecost)

Justin Crisp and Abdul-Rehman Malik discuss capitalism, shrewdness, and the logic of parables in Luke 16:1-13. The text is appointed for the Fifteenth Sunday after Pentecost (Proper 20), in Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Creation and Consequences (Fourteenth Sunday after Pentecost)

John Collins and Jennifer Herdt discuss the undoing of creation, fidelity, and false prophets in Jeremiah 4:11-12, 22-28. The text is appointed for the Fourteenth Sunday after Pentecost, Proper 19, in Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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God of Creation Destroying (Thirteenth Sunday after Pentecost)

Joel Baden and Eric Reymond discuss precarity, God as creator and destroyer, and the potter metaphor in Jeremiah 18:1-11. The text is appointed for the Thirteenth Sunday after Pentecost, Proper 18, in Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Reversing the Status Quo (Twelfth Sunday after Pentecost)

Peter Hawkins and Eric Reymond discuss humility, reversing the status quo, speaking truth to power in Sirach 10:12-18. The text is appointed for the Twelfth Sunday after Pentecost, Proper 17, in Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Restorer of the Path (Eleventh Sunday after Pentecost)

Christian Wiman and Jacqueline Vayntrub discuss justice, prayer and action, and getting God's attention in Isaiah 58:9b-14. The text is appointed for the Eleventh Sunday after Pentecost, Proper 16, in Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Great Numbers of Heroes (Tenth Sunday after Pentecost)

Erika Helgen and Chloë Starr discuss faith heroes through history, triumphant faith, and the role of sin in Hebrews 11:29-12:2. The text is appointed for the Tenth Sunday after Pentecost, Proper 15, in Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Act in Faith (Ninth Sunday after Pentecost)

Greg Sterling and Harry Attridge discuss women in early Christian communities, eschatology, and faith as a matter of the heart in Hebrews 11:1-3, 8-16. The text is appointed for the Ninth Sunday after Pentecost, Proper 14, in Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Rich Toward God (Eighth Sunday after Penecost)

Judith Gundry and Adam Eitel discuss possession, wealth, and covetousness in Luke 12:13-21. The text is appointed for the Eighth Sunday after Pentecost, Proper 13, in Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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For the Sake of Ten (Seventh Sunday after Pentecost)

Tisa Wenger and Joel Baden discuss bargaining, God and Abraham's new relationship, and the righteous of Sodom and Gamorrah in Genesis 18:20-32. The text is appointed for Track 2 on the Seventh Sunday after Pentecost, Proper 12, in Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Authenticity and Belonging (Sixth Sunday after Pentecost)

Andrew McGowan and Ned Parker discuss Mary and Martha, extroversion, and authenticity in Luke 10:38-42. The text is appointed for the Sixth Sunday after Pentecost, Proper 11, in Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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To Help, Not to Judge (Fifth Sunday after Pentecost)

Volker Leppin and Vasileios Marinis discuss poverty, God's expectations, and our responsibilities to one another in Psalm 82. The text is appointed for the Fifth Sunday after Pentecost, Proper 10, in Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Where the Power Lies (Fourth Sunday after Pentecost)

Joel Baden and Eric Reymond discuss kings, skin diseases, and prophetic power in 2 Kings 5:1-14. The text is appointed for the Fourth Sunday after Pentecost, Proper 9, in Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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A Chariot of Fire (Third Sunday after Pentecost)

Erika Helgen and Chloë Starr discuss prophetic leadership, sudden loss, and mentorship in 2 Kings 2:1-2, 6-14. The text is appointed for the Third Sunday after Pentecost, Proper 8, in Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Everything You Are and Everything You Do (Second Sunday after Pentecost)

Harold Attridge and John Hare discuss gender identity, ethnic dynamics, and changes of the heart in Galatians 3:23-29. The text is appointed for Proper 7, in Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Delighted by the Human Race (Trinity Sunday)

Peter Hawkins and Eric Reymond discuss joy, multiculturalism, and feminine language in Proverbs 8:1-4, 22-31. The text is appointed for Trinity Sunday, in Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Drunk at Nine O’clock in the Morning (Pentecost)

Volker Leppin and Vasileios Marinis discuss signs and wonders, Hebrew Bible connections, the promise of salvation, and more in Acts 2:1-21. The text is appointed for Pentecost, in Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Holy Surprise, Holy Heartbreak (Ascension)

Yejide Peters Pietersen and Bill Goettler discuss love-songs, community, and connection in reference to John 17:20-26. The text is appointed for the Feast of the Ascension, in Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Heaven Down to Earth (Easter 6)

Erika Helgen and Chloë Starr discuss social justice, human failure, and heavenly hope in Revelation 21:10, 22–22:5. The text is appointed for the Sixth Sunday of Easter, in Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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A Hymn About Hymns (Easter 5)

Joel Baden and Eric Reymond discuss poetic structure, creation language, and the mechanics of praise in Psalm 148. The text is appointed for the Fifth Sunday of Easter, in Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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The Blood of the Lamb (Easter 4)

Andrew McGowan and Ned Parker discuss whiteness, danger, and comfort in Revelation 7:9-17. The text is appointed for the Fourth Sunday of Easter, in Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Resurrection Calls to Action (Easter 3)

Harold Attridge and Gregory Sterling discuss Resurrection encounters and calls to action in Acts 9:1-20 and John 21:1-19. The text is appointed for the Third Sunday of Easter, in Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Stop Doubting and Believe (2nd Sunday of Easter)

Mark Heim and Abdul-Rehman Malik discuss doubt, trauma, and the value of “Doubting Thomas” in John 20:19-31. The text is appointed for the Second Sunday of Easter, in Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Seeing and Believing (Easter Day)

Harry Attridge and John Hare discuss faith, uncertainty, and the power of emotion in John 20:1-18. The text is appointed for Easter Day, in Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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The Big Story (Easter Vigil)

Joel Baden and Tisa Wenger discuss the construction of stories, Christian supersessionism, and the legacy of Christian storytelling in relation to Genesis 22:1-18. The text is appointed for the Easter Vigil, in Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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A King Not of This World (Good Friday)

Judy Gundry and Adam Eitel discuss the innocence of Jesus, divine kingship, and more in John 18:1-19:42. The text is appointed for Good Friday, in Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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No Longer Servants, but Friends (Maundy Thursday)

John Collins and Jennifer Herdt discuss enslavement imagery, Passover liberation, and models of service in Exodus 12:1-14 and John 13:1-17. The texts are appointed for Maundy Thursday, in all three years of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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As Sacraments of Thee (Palm Sunday)

Andrew McGowan and Ned Parker discuss community, sacrament, and suffering in Luke 22:14-23:56. The text is appointed for the Palm Sunday, the Liturgy of the Passion, in Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Rivers in the Desert (Lent 5)

Tisa Wenger and Joel Baden discuss divine violence, colonialism, and the notion of “wilderness” in Isaiah 43:16-21. The text is appointed for the Fifth Sunday in Lent, in Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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New Creation in Christ (Lent 4)

Yejide Peters Pietersen and Bill Goettler discuss reconciliation, spiritual role-models, and what it means to “become the righteousness of God” with reference to 2 Corinthians 5:16-21. The text is appointed for the 4th Sunday in Lent, in Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Merciful Pleading (Lent 3)

Judith Gundry and Adam Eitel discuss repentance, leniency, and divine warnings in Luke 13:1-9. The text is appointed for the Third Sunday in Lent, in Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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This Land to Possess (Lent 2)

Joel Baden and Eric Reymond discuss inheritance, offspring, and the promises of God in Genesis 15:1-12, 17-18. The text is appointed for the Second Sunday in Lent, in Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Justification by Faith (Lent 1)

Harold Attridge and John Hare discuss the possibility of being in relationship with God in Romans 10:8b-13. The text is appointed for the First Sunday in Lent, March 6, Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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A Miracle of Compassion (Transfiguration Sunday)

Felicity Harley-McGowan and Bruce Gordon discuss the healing and transforming power of God in Luke 9:28-43. The text is appointed for Transfiguration Sunday, Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Forgiveness and Agency (Seventh Sunday after Epiphany)

Sarah Drummond and Joel Baden discuss forgiveness and the sibling dynamics at work in Genesis 45:3-11,15. The text is appointed for the Seventh Sunday after Epiphany, Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Blessings and Woes (Sixth Sunday after Epiphany)

Felicity Harley-McGowan and Bruce Gordon discuss Jesus’ blessings and warnings in Luke 6:17-26. The text is appointed for the Sixth Sunday after Epiphany, Sunday, Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Holy, Holy, Holy (Fifth Sunday after Epiphany)

Jacqueline Vayntrub and Christian Wiman discuss the difference between verse and prose in Isaiah 6:1-13. The text is appointed for the Fifth Sunday after Epiphany, Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Jeremiah: Prophet, Collaborator (Fourth Sunday after Epiphany)

Sarah Drummond and Joel Baden discuss reluctant prophets and God’s will in Jeremiah 1:4-10. The text is appointed for the Fourth Sunday after Epiphany, Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Belonging and Separateness (Third Sunday after Epiphany)

Erika Helgen and Chloe Starr discuss the church universal and love as the basis for the exercise of spiritual gifts in 1 Corinthians 12:12-31a. The text is appointed for the Third Sunday after Epiphany, Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary

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Unity and Diversity (Second Sunday after Epiphany)

Felicity Harley-McGowan and Bruce Gordon discuss recognizing God in the midst of community and the diversity of gifts in 1 Corinthians 12:1-11. The text is appointed for the Second Sunday after Epiphany, Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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The Noisiness of the Lord (1st Sunday after Epiphany)

Peter Hawkins and Eric Reymond discuss the power of God in Psalm 29. The text is appointed for the First Sunday after Epiphany, Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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A Dazzling Darkness (2nd Sunday after Christmast)

Awet Andemicael and Adam Eitel discuss the mystery, language and lyricism in John 1:1-18. The text is appointed for the Second Sunday after Christmas, Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Young Jesus in the Temple (1st Sunday after Christmas)

Gregory Sterling and Harold Attridge discuss the humanity of young Jesus and the role of Mary as mother in Luke 2:41-52. The text is appointed for the First Sunday after Christmas, Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Expectations (Christmas)

Sarah Drummond and Joel Baden discuss birth, kingship and signs of God’s redemption in Isaiah 9:2-7. The text is appointed for Christmas (Proper 1), December 24, Years A, B, and C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Mary’s Vibrant Language (Advent 4)

Felicity Harley-McGowan and Bruce Gordon discuss the Magnificat and our understanding of Mary through the ages in relation to Luke 1:46b-55. The text is appointed for the Fourth Sunday of Advent (Advent 4), Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

 

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Hope vs. Anesthesia (Advent 3)

Joel Baden and Sarah Drummond discuss hope, apathy, and why the context of prophecy matters in Zephaniah 3:14-20. The text is appointed for the Third Sunday of Advent (Advent 3), Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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A Reason to Hope (Advent 2)

Peter Hawkins and Eric Reymond discuss disaster and hope, glory, and reversal in Baruch 5:1-9. The text is appointed for the Second Sunday of Advent (Advent 2), Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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The Righteous Branch (Advent 1)

Joel Baden and Tisa Wenger discuss messianic prophecy, timelessness, and historic context in Jeremiah 33:14-16. The text is appointed for the First Sunday of Advent (Advent 1), Year C of the Revised Common Lectionary.

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Introducing Chapter, Verse, and Season

Chapter, Verse, and Season gives listeners the opportunity to overhear the kinds of conversations that take place in the halls of Yale Divinity School. Each week, professors from different theological disciplines chat about biblical texts from the Revised Common Lectionary. They bring their own interests to the table and hopefully spark new insights into the scripture appointed for each Sunday.

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